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The specific Federal legislation that granted Confederate veterans, U.S. veteran status is Public Law 85-425, enacted May 23, 1958. This act, among other things, enables The United States Veterans Administration to provide headstones for Confederate veteran's graves.


"The Whiners' Call"

Scarcely a day goes by that the media doesn't quote The Whiners' Call:             
 
"That flag is a painful reminder of slavery".

If that is the case, then why would Jesse Jackson Jr. be trying to get "painful reminders of slavery" exhibits installed in all of our National Battlefield Parks? Has anyone ever seen an accurate historical display of slavery installed by the Fed? 
And why would the NAACP want "painful reminders of slavery" exhibits in every museum, historical center, TV documentary, library, and classroom in America? I have even seen this trash in a local hospital here in Conservative Cobb County Georgia.
 
Why would they want "painful reminders of slavery" monuments built across America? Why would they insist that all textbooks include "painful reminders of slavery".

The plain fact is that they can't be reminded of something no one in America has ever experienced in his lifetime. And if we're speaking of OUR ancestors' slavery, then every person on Earth has experienced slavery.  So spare us "The Whiners' Call".                        beenlyin.jpg (144929 bytes)   Click to Enlarge


"History is indeed being used as a weapon to create the statist society we see 
today. It is one of the reasons for the virulent attacks on the Confederate 
flag and Southern history, because Federal power, a strong central government 
and massive intervention into the private sector must be seen as good and 
benevolent. The Confederates, who fought for decentralized government and 
self-determination, must be denied their previous historic role as romantic 
heroes of a fallen cause, and seen as evil, rebels against established 
authority, outlaws and unspeakable villains." 

ABSOLUTE PROOF THE NORTH DIDN'T INVADE OVER SLAVERY

"In August of 1861, (the US) Congress passed (nearly unanimously) the
Crittenden-Johnson resolution declaring that the war was not fought for the
purpose of "overthrowing or interfering with the rights or established
institutions of those States," but only to "defend and maintain the
supremacy of the Constitution and to preserve the Union."

 On 2 March 1861, the Lincoln controlled 36th U. S. Congress (minus, of 

course, the seven seceded states of
the Deep South) passed by a two-thirds majority a proposed amendment to the
Constitution. Had it been ratified by the requisite number of states before
the war intervened and signed by President Lincoln (who looked favourably on
it as a way to lure the Southern states back into the Union), the proposed
13th Amendment would have prohibited the U. S. government from ever
abolishing or interfering with slavery in any state.
 

"The 'pretense" that the North was really fighting to end slavery had 
made a few converts in Europe, but when General Fremont emancipated the 
slaves in his military district in Missouri, Lincoln promptly dismissed 
Fremont, rescinded his emancipation order, and sent slaves back to their 
masters...."from the book "When In the Course of Human Events".

Of even more interest is the fact that all reports acknowledge that black 
slave labor was used as late as 1865. This means that, according to what is 
preached by modern, politically correct historians and the NAACP, while the 
Northern forces of Abraham Lincoln were invading and sacking the South under the guise of freeing slaves, the U.S. government was using slaves to build their government buildings. The hypocrisy in these contradictory actions is too glaring to ignore.

West Virginia was the last slave state 
admitted to the Union, annexed in 1863. If the western counties of Virginia stuck with the Confederacy, they'd be forced to free their 
slaves by the Emancipation Proclamation. If they joined the Union, 
they could keep them. There's just no argument here. You can't 
say the Union fought to free the slaves when they were busy 
admitting a new slave state at the same time, as well as having 1/2 
million slaves in Union border states. What hypocrisy!

There was a bill before the US congress in 1862 which would have abolished  slavery.  

It was "defeated", even though the Southern States were not in the union.

The Annals of America,” Vol. 9, published by Encyclopedia Brittannica, Inc. : “Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation actually did not free a single slave, since the regions in which it authorized emancipation were under Confederate control, and in the border states where emancipation might have been effected, it was not authorized.“

Law & History books from the early 1800's Report that South Carolina talked of secession for many years before 1860. So called "Historians" constantly say that SC seceded over slavery and I have had these people who advertise their expertise on American History actually tell me that they have never heard that the South seceded over tariffs and taxes. I have a book that goes 
into great detail as to just how close SC came to seceding in 1852 and even closer in 1856. In 1856 if anyone other than a Democrat had won the election they were gone. When it didn't happen in 1856 they knew without a doubt that it was going to happen by 1861. As we all know it happened at the end of 1860. There is absolutely not one single mention of the word slavery in any 
of the recorded histories of the threat of secession. Only talk of the unfair  taxation of the South. When the South did secede the first debates in the US were about putting ships off the coast of Charleston to stop ships and collect the tariffs prior to the ships entering Charleston Harbor. All, very well documented history. 
Chuck Walker
"A History of the Civil War, Part First, written in 1862 by 

Samuel Mosheim Schmacker, In Pennsylvania." Pg 44;


Absolute Proof the Southern States were not Traitors

Each state was to remain a separate entity and retain their individual sovereignty. Virginia, Rhode Island and New York, in their ratification of the Constitution, stated that they reserved the right to secede from the union whenever the National Government used its powers to the oppression and injury of the people.   Were they not admitted without question? Was not the declared right of these States the absolute right of all?
'On the twenty-fourth day of May, 1860,' the United States Senate passed a
set of resolutions introduced by Jefferson Davis, of Mississippi, strongly
indorsing the right of secession by a vote of thirty-six to nineteen.
Twenty States voted for the resolutions, one State divided its vote, four
voted against it, and eight refused to vote. 
The people still remained citizens of the state in which they lived. The "U.S. citizen" did not exist.   Daniel Webster himself said that all states are nations. 

 

In 1806, New England leaders grew white with rage over the idea of admitting Louisiana into the Union. Senator Plumer of New Hampshire said, "The Eastern States must and will dissolve the Union and form a separate government of their own and the sooner the better." Senator Pickering of Massachusetts wrote: "I rather anticipate a new Confederacy exempt from the corrupt influence of this aristocratic Democrats of the South. There will be separation, The British provinces of Canada, even with the consent of Great Britain, will become members of the Northern Confederacy." 

"[Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States]" -- breathes the very essence of States' rights, and the right of secession is distinctly set forth by Rawle's..
When we remember that only seven years had then elapsed since New York, Vermont, Connecticut, and, perhaps, other Northern States asserted this right, and threatened to exercise it or make
dishonorable terms of peace with Great Britain unless the war,
was stopped, we can understand that Mr. Calhoun was not violating
Northern sentiment in introducing Rawle on the Constitution at
West Point. It there remained as a text book till 1861, and Mr.
Davis and Sidney Johnston, and General Joe Johnston and General
Lee, and all the rest of us who retired with Virginia from the
Federal Union, were not only obeying the plain instincts of our
nature and dictates of duty, but we were obeying the very
inculcations we had received in the National School

In 1844 the admission of Texas was a question. Did not the Legislature of Massachusetts pass the following resolution, "That the project of the annexation of Texas, unless arrested on the threshold, may drive these States into a dissolution of the Union"

And just this week, Rep. Marlin Schneider of Wisconsin informs us that

 
Wisconsin almost seceded over the Dred Scott decision.

The governors of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois warned Lincoln that there were secession feelings rising in their states DURING the WBTS, and that if the South won, it would be very likely that the mid-western states would secede and join the Confederacy.

Forty-six years after the war Charles Stowe, son of Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of "Uncle Tom's Cabin," addressing a negro university in Nashville, Tenn., said: "It is certain there was a rebellion, but the Northerners were the rebels, not the Southerners." 
 
'Jefferson Davis was never tried.  That mountain fact lifts its tall
testimony to tell the ages that the North waged an unconstitutional war against the constitutional South'.

If you are true Southerners, reach back to your Southern roots for enough fortitude to stand up to the extortionist naacp attacking our proud Southern heritage. The best answer, I believe, goes back to Nancy Reagan: "Just Say No".   Our heritage cannot be saved  if they see us as weaklings.  During Lincoln's War the South had 104,000 deserters. Think before you join them.  Lincoln had 200,000+  ; -)

      

Official U.S. Policy on Confederate POWs:

     "Rebel prisoners in our hands are to be subjected to a treatment finding its parallels only in the conduct of savage tribes and resulting in the death of  multitudes by the slow but designed process of starvation and by mortal diseases occasioned by insufficient and unhealthy food and wanton exposure of their persons to the inclemency of the weather." 

Preamble to the H.R. 97, passed by both Houses

HR 97 was indeed real and the northern government "did" try to eliminate the Southern race by starvation and other means of death. You can visit this web page for additional reading and other sources. Once inside the page, click on the "atrocities" section.   Patricia B. Buck

http://members.tripod.com/~PLPOW/plpow.htm


(Civil War Prisons) Edited by William B. Hesseltine there
is an article by James I. Robertson , The Scourge of Elmira 
 James Hoffman of the 10th Virginia insisted to his death that
Surgeon-in -Chief E L Sanger boasted .(I have killed more Rebs than
any soldier at the front)  Sanger resigned to avoid 
court martial for his criminal treatment of sick Confederate prisoners.

Never a mere artifact, the battle-flag lives on as

emblematic wisdom that is both timeless and timely.

Possessing extraordinary powers, it serves as a

spiritual touchstone, a divining rod, a litmus test, a

measure of healthy instinct, and as a gauge of both

political and personal wisdom. In fact, you can know a

man, in all his depth or shallowness, by his attitude

toward the Southern banner.   Dr. Winston L. McCuen


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"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision."   
....It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of
our rights and liberties."
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